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Just in case you weren't clear, here is a list of who, exactly, is allowed to touch my breasts:

1. My infant child, who I am feeding. Please note, I have one daughter, and she is TWELVE, so this category is null. Infants not my own will be handed back to Mom when they start groping, 'cause I got nothin' for 'em.

2. A medical professional screening me for cancer or other abnormalities, at an appointment I have made. PVC nurse outfits, while cute, do not give you access.

3. Someone measuring me for clothing. Bras, corsets, bodices, custom dresses, whatever. If it's important to get the fit right, fine.


4. Someone I'm currently involved with romantically/sexually, IF we are already engaged in kissing/cuddling/other behavior commonly called "making out." If we're just going about our everyday business, DON'T RANDOMLY GRAB. I kinda hate it.

If you're not covered by any category above?

DON'T EVEN ASK.

Got it?

Also, if you even THINK about asking the twelve-year-old daughter, be prepared for me to CALL THE COPS.

I absolutely refuse to wear any sort of button or signifier to remind people of this status.

MY DEFAULT IS NO.
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Date: 2008-04-22 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikvah.livejournal.com
OK, that's just WRONG. Sounds like there's a jackass who needs a reflexive knee to the groin!

Date: 2008-04-22 10:55 pm (UTC)
ext_3319: Goth girl outfit (Default)
From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] theferrett and friends of his at Penguincon. This had BETTER not come to Arisia.

Date: 2008-04-22 10:57 pm (UTC)
gentlyepigrams: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gentlyepigrams
No, he's heidipologied and abjectly flounced from congoing for the next year because he feels so bad about this. If I cared, I'd be waiting for the post where the lurkers who support him on email convince him to unflounce.

Date: 2008-04-22 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cupcake-goth.livejournal.com
Oh lord, he flounced? And I didn't think my opinion of him and his actions could get any lower. Guess I was wrong.

Date: 2008-04-22 11:01 pm (UTC)
ext_3319: Goth girl outfit (Default)
From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
I hope like hell he stays flounced, and for longer than a year, and that this meme GOES THE FUCK AWAY.

I feel like I've been living since age eleven in a world where everyone DEFAULTS to wanting to touch my boobs, and I am PROFOUNDLY GRATEFUL for the social conventions that keep most people from doing so, and even from asking. Those who were slow to grasp this social nicety (and quick to grasp my bra strap) were corrected with a MATH BOOK TO THE SKULL.

I don't want to have to start carrying math books again.

Date: 2008-04-22 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikvah.livejournal.com
Holy fuck, what a bad idea!

Date: 2008-04-22 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithhopetricks.livejournal.com
He flounced, disappeared about 1400 comments while leaving his OP up, flounced more, and undisappeared them! for now.

Date: 2008-04-22 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithhopetricks.livejournal.com
(also omg, T and I STILL do that "I want to peeench" routine. I am the crab.)

Date: 2008-04-22 11:08 pm (UTC)
gentlyepigrams: (*eyeroll*)
From: [personal profile] gentlyepigrams
Well, it was a sadface guilty flounce. Because he really is a feminist DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE THINKS MY TITS ARE PUBLIC DOMAIN.

Srsly.

Date: 2008-04-22 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atdelphi.livejournal.com
If I never hear the phrase "It's not sexual, it's sensual" again, it will be too soon.

Date: 2008-04-22 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cupcake-goth.livejournal.com
This whole thing is just one of many reasons why I don't really go to cons any more. I don't trust groups of geek guys (or any group of guys, really) to have the sense to not behave like entitled morons. I put up with enough of that nonsense when I worked for WotC and had to help run booths at cons, thanks.

... I just can't get over the notion that he (and others) thought that asking strangers if they could touch their breasts was OK. I mean, there's socially inept, and then there's shouldn't be allowed out without a minder.

Date: 2008-04-22 11:23 pm (UTC)
ext_3319: Goth girl outfit (SportDeath)
From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
What's worse is that I'm acquainted with at least a couple of the women who participated in the experiment.

The kindest thing I can say is to note a previously-observed tendency to starry-eyed idealism. But at least one of them should REALLY know better.

Date: 2008-04-22 11:28 pm (UTC)
gentlyepigrams: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gentlyepigrams
I worked in a comics/gaming shop for a while when I was in grad school about 1990. I feel your pain, sister.

Entitled morons is right. Except maybe too harsh on the people we no longer call morons.

Date: 2008-04-22 11:31 pm (UTC)
ext_3319: Goth girl outfit (bludger)
From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
Maybe too harsh, except... L's brother.

Date: 2008-04-22 11:34 pm (UTC)
ext_3319: Goth girl outfit (bitchplease)
From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
Yeah. Know what? Even though I recognize the distinction, if you feel you need to make it to convince me to do something, YOU ARE NOT IN THE GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH WHOM I WOULD DO SUCH A THING.

Date: 2008-04-22 11:35 pm (UTC)
ext_3319: Goth girl outfit (Default)
From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
we do too, but nobody has dibs on the crab.

Remind me to send you a song about a crab that PEENCHES.

Date: 2008-04-22 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] happybluebunny.livejournal.com
I saw that ferret entry and I will say the same thing to you that I did to the person I first saw posting/reacting to it:
Gross.

*sigh*

Date: 2008-04-22 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] panzerschrek.livejournal.com
And me without a tire-iron and something approaching useful proximity.

Re: *sigh*

Date: 2008-04-22 11:57 pm (UTC)
ext_3319: Goth girl outfit (Default)
From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
hey, if you find yourself at a con with [livejournal.com profile] theferrett, give him one across the cranium for me.

Date: 2008-04-23 12:04 am (UTC)
geekosaur: Mr. Yuk (US CDC poison "mascot") (mr.yuk)
From: [personal profile] geekosaur
This is the second time I'm seeing this notion. WTF?! If he really thinks he should be able to grab random tits, I hope someone reciprocates with a ball grab. Eeeuuuuuuuuurrrrrrggggghhh.
Edited Date: 2008-04-23 12:04 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-04-23 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] medraxellion.livejournal.com
Awwww, there goes my hopes and dreams. *goes emo*

Seriously though, give anybody who tries it a rough kick in the ass.

Date: 2008-04-23 12:15 am (UTC)
ext_3319: Goth girl outfit (Doc Martens)
From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
Well, see, if you wanted access, you would just have to put in the effort to get into category #4.

Or offer to make me custom clothing, I guess!

Anyone demonstrating that level of cluelessness will get corrected with my PLATFORM PENNANGALANS.

Re: *sigh*

Date: 2008-04-23 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] panzerschrek.livejournal.com
Given his post, it would be useless.

First, given his lack of clue, I might not be inclined to stop.

Second,it wouldn't do any good... although maybe stuffing him in a pair of shock shorts and zapping him whenever he steps out of line might help, if only on a conditioning / negative reinforcement basis.

Date: 2008-04-23 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wasabi-poptart.livejournal.com
I agree with you whole-heartedly. I'm not familiar with the situation that prompted this post, but the whole hyper-sexualized flirty/entitlement vibe given off at cons, ren faires, etc. makes me want to vomit.

In other words...

Date: 2008-04-23 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] panzerschrek.livejournal.com
... he slunk off and has decided to retire to wherever this sort of shmuck slinks off to, so as to avoid the richly deserved fall-out.

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